No, this is not about my ego, but my ‘Ego scoota’!

Hello.

Please let me introduce myself, my name’s Nick, I developed an interest in the concept of electric scooters a little while ago when my brother showed me the ad on Firebox’s website for the Ego scoota. I was starting to feel the effect of the rising fuel price’s (as I have an 8 seater tank!) At first I could not get my head around the fact that a scooter filled with batteries could perform like a gas scooter (it seemed to simple to be true), so I started to read lots of reviews & visited the manufactures website. The Chinese really are into these scooters, they produce a vast range that seem to suit a wide range of usages….. I digress. The Ego scoota, for it’s price, appeared to be the best option available in this country at the moment. I didn’t like the idea of a scooter that only ran at about 15 – 20 MPH (as the really cheap ones do), but that said, 30 MPH still seemed like it would be too slow. My thought was to get the ‘Ego‘ & then contact the manufactures & get the information required to de-restrict the motor.

I bought my scoota about 2 months ago from castletoncarsales in Rochdale (get their info from Ego’s website (they are a dealership for Ego scootas) (that’s right, Firebox ain’t got an exclusive deal with them!) I was offered a pre-registered scooter & I snapped it up straight away, as I was not interested in doing all the registration rubbish. It was delivered in about a week & it really was a pleasure dealing with these guys. I got a much better reception from them then I did with Firebox. I done the usual, charge it up, take it for a spin etc. When I was happy with it, I started to use it for my commute to work (about 6 miles each way), picking my route carefully to avoid the fast roads. It was really strange at first, 30mph is so slow, but I soon got used to it again – (I started on bikes at age 16 so I had a ‘sports moped’ that was restricted).

After running it for a while, I contacted Ego & asked them for the information to de-restrict the scooter. I was informed that it could be done, but they would not tell me how to do it (thanx mates). Really (un) happy with their response, I trawled the net looking for info on de-restriction, to my avail no info was out there. I was starting to think I was on a losing cause. I spoke to friends with electrical knowledge, but they all seemed to think the motor would need replacement to speed to bike up. This, I thought, was a bit drastic!

Being a bit of an optimist I started to take bits off the scooter & “fiddle”. I didn’t take me long to start breaking things though! Lucky for me the guys I got the scooter from keep a vast array of spares (Thank Terry). After a lot of playing about & expense, I came up with the theory that if 48 volts & 36 Amps produce 30 MPH, then additional amps or volts must produce more speed. Even though I had been told this would not work I decided to get another battery & plug it in.

Great, got the new battery, how do I wire it in? Parallel or in series? As the scooters light circuit was prep’d for a 60 volt intake, I decided to go for the ‘in series’ option, taking it from 48 volts to 60 volts. This was when I made a potentially big mistake!!!! I tried to wire-in the battery to the 2 middle-bank batteries ( + to -) without removing a cross-over cable (BANG!) ‘Twat’ was the word springing to mind. I had just arc welded a terminal to the battery bolt! fortunately the battery was unscathed. When thinking about it with a clearer head, I removed the cross-over cable from the end bank & connected the new battery in. I now had 60 volts running through the scoota. Make or break time for my wallet! I flicked the circuit breaker over to power-up the machine & received no nasty surprises (phew). I switched the key on & tried the lights, all working fine’ so I tried the throttle & it worked ok.

Now came the proper test, I donned my helmet & took to the road (giggle). The bike did not seem to have a great deal of gain in the acceleration department, but it was a little better. The important thing though is that I got the bugger up to 40mph no problem at all (light the fire works & smoke the cigar).

I am about 11st (ish) & can now get 40mph from a scoota that was restricted to 30mph for just the cost of a battery (£40) & a couple of bits of wire. As the scoota has a reasonable amount of torque, anybody with a similar weight should be able to get this sort of speed, maybe even more.

The battery charger is not capeable of charging all 5 batteries in series, so I have made a new wiring harness & now charge 4 batteries in the normal way & charge the extra battery with a seperate charger. If any one wants to know how the scoota & its batteries are doing I will post some more info. Laters.

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27 Responses to “No, this is not about my ego, but my ‘Ego scoota’!”

  1. Philomena Says:

    Nice one’…… i have a ego scoota i would like to go 40mph i get embarrsed when im doing 25mph on 30 mph rd and cars are passing me… 😦 ive had my scoota for 2 and half weeks now my throttle seems to not be working properly, as it goes off when it pleases bar is charged put scoota dosent seem too move only after much throttling it does i hope u scoota dosen’t do that i have to get terry to check it out, mind u i need to transport it thier i live near burnley so its a fair bit to rochdale out ^0^

  2. nigsego Says:

    Hi. I sometimes get a lack of throttle response when the batteries are fully charged, I think the speed controller blocks the power going to the motor, to stop it over speeding (but that is when I have all 5 batteries connected), or it may simply be moister in the twist grip (do you keep it uncovered at night?). I too found that just twisting the throttle a couple of times makes it go & then it’s fine all day. I am sure Terry will get yours sorted out for you though. When you go & see him, get your self a spare battery or 2, then you’ll be able to get your scoota going faster. If you need some information about the wiring just ask & I’ll do my best to get some details to ya.
    Currently I have the extra battery under the seat & have made a new wiring harness that simply unplugs when I need to charge the 4 batteries & then I charge the extra battery seperatley with another charger. I am thinking of making a few kits up & putting them on eBay.
    Hope you get yours sorted out soon 🙂
    Regards, Nick.

  3. Martin Says:

    Great article. How’s the bike performing now? And did you ever get any more details on derestricting?!

  4. nigsego Says:

    Hi Martin & thanx.
    The bike is going great. I am getting a steady 40MPH out of it, with better acceleration & hill climbing speeds. It depends on what you mean by more details, are you wanting details from me how to do the derestriction? If so, please let me know & I will get my bottom into gear & make some documents up. I keep meaning to do it, but no one has really showed an interest as yet. I am currently trying to find a 60 volt charger & means of restricting the total battery out put, as when the all 5 batteries are fully charged it pumps out about 65 volts, which causes the speed controller to stop the motor. I have a few friends working on this for me, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a quick answer. Currently I use the scoota for a couple of miles on the 4 batteries & pull over & connect the 5th. Hope this helps. Hope to here from you soon.
    Nick.

  5. Martin Says:

    Thanks Nick.
    Yes — the derestricting details would be much appreciated. Have seen quite a few posts around the place from other people after the same information — so think it would be widely appreciated. Like you, I phoned up and asked but without success!
    I guess one answer would be to replace the speed controller — but the motor might not like that.
    Thanks again
    Martin

  6. nigsego Says:

    Hi Martin. Sorry to here about the “great” customer support you got from Ego 😦 I have tried (& failed) to find a replacement speed contoller, even to the extent of contacting a specialist in Australia, but they could not help. So I think this is a bit of a dead-end, but if you can find one please let me know. I would suggest that if you do want to follow my instructions about the conversion, you contact ‘Castleton car sales’ http://www.castletoncarsales.co.uk/contact.htm speak to Terry & get 1 new battery (about £50 including postage) & also get a decent 12v charger (if you haven’t already got one), I use an Optimate III. I have got the day off on Friday, so I will endever to get the instructions posted then, with details about conectors & cabling required. A quick check list for you: You’ll need a couple of sets of battery connectors (Tamiya & Koysho (male & female) connectors) http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=13280 & also about 50 cm of 40Amp wire, black & red.
    I have also moved the battery charge connector point to inside (under the seat) by fitting a new connector: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1360 (this one is fairly self explanatry). This way you can charge the 4 batteries in any weather.
    Back soon with more……..
    Nick.

  7. nigsego Says:

    Hi peeps.

    Sorry for the delay, but I have finally written the description of how to do the de-restriction. If ya wonna a copy just email me at: nicholas.western@ntlworld.com & I will send you a copy on reply..

    Ta. Nick.

  8. loan money Says:

    @Jessica, you look like you know what you’re talking about. Do you mind sending me your email? I would like to speak more with you.

    • nigsego Says:

      Hi ‘Loan Money’. If you want to chat, please use this site, that’s why I created it 🙂
      Regards, Nig.

  9. Bruce, Ego Owner and Fan, Surrey Says:

    Greetings all, I’ve recently bought an EGO Street Scooter from a mate and to start off with I was pretty doubtful that it would do what he said it would. I did some reading up on it and I guess the reviews where 50/50 as to if its a good idea or not.

    Problem number 1: Riding a scooter is rarely seen as being tough and often thought of on the other end of the spectrum as a bit ‘naf’.
    Answer: What I’ve noticed even the toughest friends of mine who were happy to laugh and joke about it change their mind rapidly after they’ve been out for a ride on it and It’s really hard to get them off the thing.

    Problem number 2: Lots of people are complaining about the low speed of the scooter.
    Answer: Unless you’re Uber handy with electrics like Nick and happy to give it a go fiddling with the wiring of the battries I’d say enjoy the ride at 25mph. My take on it is that the thing was built for low cost, convenient, easy running and if you want speed get a super bike.

    Problem number 3: Range (distance it can travel on a charge) is an issue the makers say it can go 40miles on a charge which sounds great but in reality it was probably measured with a small child driving.
    Answer: Charge the thing up daily and then you’ll not need to stress to much about the range, additionally if you’re worried about running out of power on your run to work and back get an extra charger to leave at work and charge the thing while you are working ensuring that it’ll get you home.

    Problem number 4: Getting honest advice on the EGO Scooters.
    Answer: Firefox seems to be the number 1 hit that Google and Bing send you to, although Firefox has the fancy pictures and stats they have stopped selling the scooters, when I called their helpline I was informed that they no longer run the range and have no other numbers to give to me for anyone that can help with my questions. My advice after trawling the net for days and days is that if you have questions about these things ask Nick (on nigs ego blog) as he’s had one of these things for ages and knows what he’s talking about.

    More to follow. Enjoy riding.
    Bruce

  10. Danny Says:

    Hey Nick,

    Any progress on the de-restriction on the EGO Scoota? i tried to contact you using the email address you posted, but it keeps bouncing back to me?

    Cheers

    Danny

    • nigsego Says:

      Hi Danny.
      I have been running mine on 72 volts. Some people have upgraded even further to 96 volts, but I couldn’t really justify the cost. My Scoota is currently off the road, as I I’m not using it. Will be selling it at some point (when I have the time to sort it out).
      The email you tried is old now & no longer in use.
      Have you just bought a Scoota?
      Regards, Nick.

      • Danny Says:

        Hey Nick,

        I am looking at one on ebay at a good price, i have a ducatii 1000ss but need something for simple running about, just concerned it wont be powerful enough? is there an EASY was to gain power?

        Thanks for the response 🙂

        Danny

      • nigsego Says:

        Hi Danny.
        You’ll find it a WHOLE lot slower than your Duke. The only way to improve the speed (that I know of) is to add batteries, it is a fairly easy job, pending on your skill levels. I recon most people who tinker with the big bikes should be capable of the battery upgrade.
        I would say if your local, you could try mine so you know what to expect. I’m Portsmouth area.

        Regards,
        Nick.

      • Danny Says:

        Hi Nick,

        I am based in Corfu right now, so cant really check yours out lol, i do a bit of work on my Duc, so should be ok with battery replacements, is there any link to diagram or where to get the additional batteries?

        Thanks again

        Danny

      • nigsego Says:

        I don’t really know of anywhere to buy the batteries from now. Try this web site (http://www.kickasscity.com/upgrade_guide.html) for upgrading details. It’s pretty good.

  11. matthew Says:

    hi nick i bought a ego scoota today on the isle of wight when i picked it up the previous owner assured me it had been on charge over night so i thought great i live 1.4 miles from here so i could get home and to work without charging at first it was great felt rapid (considering its a glorified mobility scooter lol) but about a mile down the road it started cutting out and acting slugish my question is how would it behave with a low charge or what would it do (or not do) with damaged batteries and is there anywhere to find new ones local to me as rochdale’s a bloody long walk from here lol

  12. matthew Says:

    and do you know if mobility scooter batteries would work as i think voltage and amps are similar

    • nigsego Says:

      Hi. The mobility scooter batteries do the same job, in the sense that they are designed to have heavy current draw, so yes, as long as you can find some with a higher enough amperage. I think mine are 33amps. Some of the Scoota’s were produced with 28amp batteries, which wern’t up to it. Is your Scoota 48, 60 or 72 volts?
      As for the battery trouble, the symptoms you described are exactly what happens when the batteries are flat. It like riding a 2stroke motorbike that is running out of fuel (a bucking bronco).
      I would suggest putting the batteries on charge over night & seeing how it is in the morning. If that has not helped, take them all out & charge them individually. If you have a decent charger, it should tell you the state of the batteries.
      I don’t really now anywhere local that sells these actual batteries, but they used to be available I’m the internet. Just Google your battery No in & see what it comes up with. Again, you need at least 33ah batteries to last. You’ll probably looking at about £45 per battery.
      Hope this helps a bit.
      Regards, Nick.

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  14. ooglek Says:

    Hi Nick — I just got a used eGo and would like to know more about de-restricting it. The email in the comments doesn’t work, so hopefully this reaches you! I’ve included my email in the comments box below. I use google mail with the username of ooglek.

    Would also love to see pictures of your modified scoota!

    • nigsego Says:

      Hi ooglek.
      Sorry for the very slow reply. I am not really using this blog site any more, as I have stripped my Scoota & am currently in the process of making it into a go-cart.
      If you go to this web site (http://www.kickasscity.com) you’ll be able to get info of how to de-restrict scooters to run at 72volts. It’s run be a guy named Mike (Hohisilver). He is very knowledgeable with this stuff & usually very friendly.
      Regards,
      Nick.

  15. Leila Says:

    I NEED HELP HI MY NAME IS LEILA I RECENTLY PURCHASED AN EGO SCOOTER THE GIRL TOLD ME THAT THE BATTERIES MIGHT NOT WORK BUT MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED I CHARGED IT AND WHEN ITS PLUGGED IN CHARGER IT TURNS ON AND EVERYTHING BUT WHEN UNPLUGGED IT DOSNT TURN ON AT ALL IT HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN IN ORDER TO TURN ON I DONT KNOW HOW TO REMOVE THE BATTERIES HAS 2 but there stuck together PLEASE HELP ME THANK U

    • nigsego Says:

      Hi Leila.
      If the batteries are stuck together, it sounds like they have got too hot. If this is the case, the need to be replaced.
      You will probably need to remove the seat assembly.
      The batteries are a tight fit in the battery box. You’ll need to get something underneath them. If you have a couple of old BBQ skewers, you could put a 90 degree bend in them, insert better the batteries & the box, then twist & lift.
      Did you say there are only two batteries?

      • Leila Says:

        HI IM LEILA AGAIN AND YES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT IF THERE ARE ONLY TWO BATTERIES ANSWER IS YES . BUT MY FRIEND ALREADY DETACHED THE BATTERIES NOW I HAVE TO PURCHASE ON CAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ONE I KNOW THAT IT HAS 2 FUSES DOES IT NEED THE MINI 10 amp or volt fuses Red Ones ? I JUST WANT TO BE SURE EVERYTHING IS RUNNING WELL
        AND WHAT IS A POWER PAQ??
        AND WHAT IS THE VOLTAGE AND AMPS THE SCOOTER NEEDS
        I REALLY APRECIATE YOUR HELP I REALLY DONT LIKE BOTHERING ANYONE BUT I HAVENT RODE THE SCOOTER SINCE I PURCHASED IT ITS FRUSTRATING THANK YOU HOPE TO HEAR FROM U SOON 😊

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